tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-686255070847434191.post3634447610064014041..comments2022-12-11T01:22:33.019-07:00Comments on EcoCurious: INCEST is NOT BESTSandy Pricehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13989192660426789441noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-686255070847434191.post-50392161889258982642010-11-28T21:46:22.971-07:002010-11-28T21:46:22.971-07:00Joe, thanks for that more detailed understanding o...Joe, thanks for that more detailed understanding of the Israeli security system. I'm not sure Americans wouldn't stand still for questioning, but I also think our constitutional protections and the way they've been interpreted by the courts would make certain lines of questioning legally questionable. <br /><br />As I said, I don't know the right answer to the "which technology" question. What I object to is the way lobbyists steer the conversation toward a particular solution so that other possible alternatives do not get an adequate airing.<br /><br />Jon, thanks for the actual quote. I read it somewhere early in the day, couldn't remember where or find it. I'll fix the quote. If you can tell me who said it, I'll fix that too! For now, they're anonymous to me!<br /><br />And as for the characterization, you give us more credit than I do. I have been political all my life, and I don't think I truly realized the extent of the influence until a few years ago. I believe most people don't know. And...you're way better read than 98 percent of anyone I know! So you cannot project from yourself to the rest of us!Sandy Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13989192660426789441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-686255070847434191.post-28029015828150854102010-11-28T21:18:08.637-07:002010-11-28T21:18:08.637-07:00FYI, that opening quote is attributable to a parti...FYI, that opening quote is attributable to a particular individual and actually reads "If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested." But the gist is the same, of course.<br /><br />I'm not sure how I feel about broadly characterizing the American people as helpless victims of the machinery. Quite a few Americans, after all, support, whether intentionally or not, the political elements and regimes responsible for implementing these programs. Many other Americans don't care or would prefer to ignore the process regardless of the consequences.Jonathannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-686255070847434191.post-31339550315850830932010-11-28T21:13:58.245-07:002010-11-28T21:13:58.245-07:00I'm not sure that Israel's methods are mor...I'm not sure that Israel's methods are more low tech, or less intrusive. What makes them different, however, is that the Israeli security system is totally focused on WHO the person is, and where they come from, as opposed to conducting a neutral check of everyone without in most cases asking a lot of intrusive questions about our backgrounds. And our country, with its history of slavery and racial discrimination, as well as our commitment to religious freedom, would not tolerate that kind of profiling. Remember that Norman Mineta, whose family was forced to live in a Japanese internment camp during World War II, was the Secretary of Transportation after 9/11, and there was just no way that he was ever going to institute any kind of racial profiling policy on the Israeli model. Yes it does seem stupid when we pat down an old lady or a young child, but that is the price of not discriminating. <br /><br />Also remember that people have the choice between the body scanning machine and the pat down. Maybe neither one is to your liking, but in that case you also have the choice not to fly.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12552117060181130126noreply@blogger.com